August 30, 2012
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THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF SAN JOSE AND
(formerly Pension-Issue news)
San Jose in the news, and not
in a good way...
Below are segments from Bay Area news
stations that the POA captured since we went to press last
SJ Officers Targeted: 2 Assaulted Per Day
If there are no police why have a
San Jose's Violent Crime Spree Causes City to
San Jose, A City In Crisis
San Jose Homicides
Some Are Accusing Mayor Reed of Not Doing
Enough to Stem the Violence
Worst Streak of Violence in San Jose History
SJ's Strategy to Subdue Violence, Stopgap at
SJ's Response to Violence is Not Enough
Another Day and Another Homicide in San Jose
Another Day of Murder in San Jose
• • • • •
Our former boss
supported Chief Chris Moore in this NBC Bay Area newscast from last Thursday
evening. Look for Joe to make his appearance about a minute into the clip,
providing it is still on the KNTV Bay Area News website...
• • • • •
So what's new? This not-surprising article appeared on the front
page of the Local Section of yesterday's paper...
Exodus in Blue
officers are leaving for better pay, working conditions—
By Mark Gomez
Mercury News — Aug. 29, 2012
SAN JOSE — Colleagues told Jincy Pace that one day
she’d become a deputy chief of the San Jose Police Department. Smart,
hardworking, respected, the West Point graduate had all the attributes for a
Pace still has that goal, but it won’t happen in San Jose.
years with the San Jose Police Department, Sgt. Jincy
Pace left last week to become a patrol officer in Hillsboro, Ore.
After almost 14 years with the department, Pace last
week left her job as a San Jose cop. She traded in her sergeant’s badge to
become a patrol officer in Hillsboro, Ore. Pace is one of 79 officers who have
resigned from the department since 2011, including 30 this year.
San Jose police Chief Chris Moore said for the first time in the department’s
history more police officers are resigning — mostly for jobs with other
departments — than are retiring. Twenty-one officers have retired this year.
Moore and union officials say the reason is twofold. After pension reform and
pay cuts, officers can make more money and better benefits elsewhere, even at
smaller departments. Others, including veteran officers, are leaving because
they say the once-proud force is dispirited, overworked and rife with morale
problems. They don’t see the same opportunities and proactive policing they once
“It’s absolutely the hardest decision I’ve ever made,” said Pace, saying she
weighed what is best for her family, including wife Beach Pace, former executive
director of City Year, and their two young children. “I’ve never loved an
agency, a city as much as I love this place. I love San Jose. My heart and soul
is here, absolutely. It just pains me to leave.”
As a result of the exodus, the department’s staffing is substantially lower than
what’s authorized: 1,055 sworn officers instead of 1,109. For the patrol
division, the problem is even greater. It is authorized for 548 officers but
only has 492 on the rolls, and 32 of the officers are not available for duty due
to various reasons. In 2008, the patrol division boasted nearly 600 officers.
The fear among officers is the number will continue to drop and put a greater
strain on their safety and ability to answer calls.
“We’re going to be losing a lot of people, and they’re not the people you’d want
to lose,” Pace said. “We have some of the most amazing employees. We can only do
so much. We’re at the point we’re breaking.”
Pace and the dozens of other departed cops leave a department that is struggling
to respond to an uptick in crime — a surge some say is the result of criminals
knowing there are fewer eyes on the streets. San Jose is on pace to exceed the
15-year high of 39 homicides last year, the 2012 total ballooning by eight in
just 11 days in August.
As an internal affairs sergeant, Pace would field background check calls for
co-workers who were looking for other jobs. She began to wonder why she wasn’t
looking, too. While Hillsboro doesn’t pay as much, Pace’s take-home pay will be
within a few thousand dollars of what she earned in San Jose. And because the
cost of living is much lower, Pace believes her family will enjoy a better
quality of life.
If she had stayed and moved up the ladder, she realized that because of the
staffing shortage she wouldn’t have much time to spend with her family. She also
said the staffing levels have created an unsafe environment for officers, and
she sees safety in the city on the decline.
But for many officers, it’s an economic decision.
When one San Jose cop moved to the Redwood City Police Department, his take-home
pay increased from $54,600 a year up to $88,400 a year, according to the San
Jose police union.
The maximum base pay for a Campbell police officer is $104,836 a year, with a 9
percent retirement contribution. Campbell does not offer retiree health care.
By comparison, officers in San Jose earn a maximum base salary of $97,198 and
make an 11.13 percent contribution to their retirement fund and 8.26 percent for
retirement health care, according to city statistics.
Recently other San Jose cops have left for jobs with the Livermore and Walnut
Creek police departments.
“Our stars will leave. They just will,” Police Officers’ Association President
Jim Unland said.
In response to the staffing shortage, the city is authorizing more overtime for
the already weary patrol division, and stripping other divisions to place more
officers on the street. Moore said he has repeatedly told City Hall that to
retain good cops, the city must “increase our bottom-line pay.”
Mayor Chuck Reed acknowledges San Jose’s salary is not competitive with other
agencies’ but stands by the decision to ask all city workers, including police
officers, to take a 10 percent pay cut in 2011. The alternative, he said, was to
deplete the police department even more by laying off 156 officers.
“We’ll have to make some adjustments once we get the pension problem resolved,”
Reed said. “We can make adjustments in pay to be competitive.”
Reed says the city’s pension costs have more than tripled in a decade to $245
million. A recent audit affirmed that the city’s retirement funds remain $3.5
billion short of covering promised benefits and that retirement costs have
doubled in two years, “from $136 million to an estimated $244 million.” In June,
voters approved Measure B to reduce pensions for new hires and make current
employees pay more or switch to a reduced plan for their remaining years.
“As officers, what we are hearing from our citizens is you guys are a bunch of
greedy guts and we don’t appreciate what you’ve done for us,” Pace said. “As
officers, we are used to that, to some extent. But it’s heartbreaking. It’s a
vote, right there in front of you.”
Moore said that employee contribution of nearly 20 percent for pension and
retiree health care, coupled with the 10 percent pay cut, is driving officers to
look elsewhere. Since 2011, 79 officers have resigned, compared with 47 from
2007 to 2010.
“They all say the same thing,” Moore said. “I love the city. I love this
department. But I can’t afford to work here.”
To get police staffing levels to 1,109, the department in September will begin
the first of two academy classes that could put 66 rookie cops on the streets in
June, Moore said. A second academy is scheduled in March.
Moore worries the department won’t be able to keep these new officers once they
complete the training and get experience on the street.
Unland said the influx of new hires will not keep pace with departures and won’t
make up for the loss of experienced officers. Because it typically takes at
least two years for a new officer to get up to speed, the resulting “brain
drain” will be evident.
Watching people leave and the department struggle is “like watching someone you
love slowly wither away and die,” Pace said. “It’s so sad. But I’ve got to go
before I get drawn down under with it.”
• • • • •
From the I.A. column of
last Sunday's paper was this little tidbit about the NBC Bay Area News
Investigative Unit that broke the news about the $650 million lie and has since
been a thorn in the side of City Hall's puppet masters...
At $2,000 a
Pop, They’re Welcome Here Anytime
investigate’’ is the motto of the NBC Bay Area News investigative team.
So where do they strut their stuff?
Try San Jose City Hall. The team recently filmed a 30-second promotional video
inside the City Hall Rotunda. The spot showed television reporters and editors
marching up and down the Rotunda stairs while an announcer intoned lines like,
“We investigate when you don’t have a voice but still have a story to tell.”
You can see the video at
You may remember that one of the investigative team’s targets earlier this year
was Mayor Chuck Reed , who was confronted by reporter Jenna Susko over the
city’s projections of pension costs. Unless you were a budget wonk, it was hard
to follow the back and forth over the $650 million estimate. By the time you
understood it, you no longer cared. A state audit last week offered ammunition
for both sides of the controversy.
But the NBC Bay Area news team is at least ready to help the financially
strapped city: It paid $2,000 to rent the Rotunda.
Internal Affairs is an offbeat
look at local and state politics.
This week’s items were
written by Tracy Seipel, Scott Herhold, John Woolfolk and
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• • • • •
At the bottom of the op/ed
page of today's paper was this article penned by Assemblyman Jim Beall, a former
San Jose City Councilman.
State’s San Jose Pension Audit
Fulfilled Its Purpose
By Jim Beall,
Assemblyman, District 24
Mercury News —
Aug. 30, 2012
The state audit I sought to evaluate the city of San Jose’s retirement costs
had two purposes:
• To get an independent and unbiased review of San Jose’s pension obligations to
help residents get a clear understanding of the scope of the problem.
• To help the Legislature by increasing its knowledge of pension reform so it
may promulgate new policies or laws.
The audit accomplishes both those missions. Its value lies in warning
California’s local governments to use sound actuarial standards and
methodologies in developing cost projections in order, as the audit said, to
“report the information in the correct context.’’
Not all local governments adhere to this standard, and it may very well need to
San Bernardino’s bankruptcy was due, in large part, to its unacceptable
accounting procedures that masked the city’s true financial state for years.
The audit bolsters the argument for pension reform but also for using proper
accounting standards that can help us avoid the bankruptcy scenarios that have
engulfed Stockton, Vallejo and Mammoth Lakes.
When the third-largest city in California gave serious consideration last year
whether to declare a fiscal emergency — a procedural step that could have led to
bankruptcy — people at the Capitol quickly took notice because if San Jose slid
into bankruptcy, the repercussions for state and local taxpayers would have been
disastrous. Bond rates would have skyrocketed, making borrowing for capital
improvement projects prohibitively expensive.
As a former San Jose city councilman and Santa Clara County supervisor, I
believe this audit tells me all levels of government need to conduct more
frequent analyses of their unfunded liabilities and their assumed rates of
return. And those analyses must meet accepted actuarial standards. The state
audit revealed four out of the five cost projections bandied about by the city
had not been approved by the pension boards; three of the five projections did
not meet actuarial standards.
The Mercury News correctly points out that San Jose’s pension problems were
apparent to all. I have never disagreed with that point. We need sensible
pension reform. I have cast votes for legislative measures that would save $600
million, and I support Gov.
Jerry Brown’s 12-point pension reform plan. In the days to come, state lawmakers
will be addressing pension reforms to create more savings, and the San Jose
audit will help them by illustrating the critical need to have accepted controls
and standards in place.
The audit’s overriding message is that getting clear and accurate information is
fundamental to saving taxpayer dollars. It is crucial for the public and
government officials to understand the reality and magnitude of the problem.
This is why the report was approved on an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote of the
Joint Legislative Audit Committee earlier this year.
As one smart financial manager put it: If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage
Jim Beall represents Assembly District 24, which encompasses Saratoga and
Campbell and includes portions of San Jose, Santa Clara and Los Gatos. He wrote
this for this newspaper.
• • • • •
Don't beat around the bush,
Phil. Tell the paper's readers how you really feel...
San Jose Voters Should Show the
Door to Reed
Letter to the
Editor — Mercury News — Aug. 30, 2012
San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed has failed miserably to lead
this city. His role in the passing of Measure B led to the destruction of the
best police department in the country. He cut the most proactive gang unit, the
violent crime enforcement team, and watched as crime in our city has spiraled
out of control.
Does he take responsibility for that? No, not Chuck Reed. He sits in the
background of news conferences and acts like he’s going to be part of the
solution for the chaos he has created. All this could have been avoided with
telling the truth to the citizens of San Jose and through fair negotiations with
the unions to reach an agreement on pension reform. This city cannot take two
more years with him as our mayor.
Recall Chuck Reed.
Phil Malvini, SJPD retired
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entertaining, free and independent pieces of journalism I have witnessed in many
years. For those who do not agree with your position and content, so frickin'
You are the editor, so do what you please unless someone is paying you and/or
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You and Leroy have given many people a source of enjoyment and information. The
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• • • • •
Now that the Olympics are over, and in case you need a fill-in, can you tell me
what Olympic champion is standing next to me? (An interesting story, really.)
I replied to Mike's message and said I'd bite,
figuratively speaking of course. Just who is the former Olympian? My reply
resulted in the following response...
Do you remember the little girl from Romania who scored all the 10 pointers at
the '76 Olympics? She was Nadia Comaneci. I am older than you, so you might not
have seen as much of it as me. She was a guest speaker at a dinner for the
Special Olympics hosted by a group of retired United Airlines flight attendants
whose goal is to support the Special Olympics. Walking around afterwards in the
crowd, Sue and I met and had a short talk with Nadia. She made it a point to say
her life was miserable under the communists after the Olympics even though she
was such a winning athlete. She also said she wouldn't wish it on anyone. While
she eventually made it to the US, few corporations were interested because she
was a former communist.
I guess this will be my only brush with fame.
Thanks for the age
compliment, Mike, But I was 32 years old in 1976 when Nadia scored all the tens,
and I watched her perform along with tens of millions of other viewers.
Readers who would like more info about the now 52-year-old former Olympic
champion are invited to click on the link below...
• • • • •
The following missive
from Dave Bartholomew is in response to an opinion I offered two weeks ago on
why I feel President Obama will get re-elected. Readers who missed it and want
to pull it up can click on the following link. It will take you to the Aug. 16th
Farsider from which you can scroll down to the red headline that reads "The
Editor Opines" with the sub-headline "Why Obama Will Be Re-Elected."
Wow! We have had many discussions over the years, but I think your op-ed was
a bit over the top.
Yes, we grew up in the same era with the same moral values. My working career
started when I owned my first business at age 11, delivering newspapers in
Toledo Ohio. Back then, you owned your paper route. I worked many jobs through
the years before ending up in San Jose and on the SJPD.
I believe in being self sufficient, and that is one part of government that I
have great conflict with. However, I do feel that as both Obama and Romney have
said, we got to where we are today as individuals with a lot of hard work, but
with a support system that helped us also. That is the ideal, a social safety
net to help when necessary. Unfortunately, those things will always be
vulnerable to abuse. It does not make them wrong as you suggested in your piece.
I believe the reason for the collapse of the economy is because of this greed,
and you are suggesting that this is a Democratic problem. But why are most of
the millionaires and billionaires pouring so much money into the Romney/Ryan
coffers? Because they are promising more tax breaks. More ice cream and cake.
Romney recently told some large donors in Minnesota, “Big Business is doing fine
in many places. They get loans they need, they can deal with all the regulation.
They know how to find ways to get through the tax code, save money by putting
various things in the places where there are low tax havens around the world for
their Businesses.” Do you really think that he will support an overhaul of the
tax code? Who pays for these tax breaks? We, the middle class.
Tax breaks and shrinking government are not the immediate answer to improving
our economy. The debt is a huge issue that must be addressed, but this is not
the time. Europe has tried austerity and has gone into a second recession. What
is needed now is to get people back to work, and the only entity prepared to do
that is government. Cutting government right now is just cutting more jobs. When
people don’t work, they don’t spend money. When they cannot get out from under
the debt they have taken on because it was so easy to get credit, (a lesson you
said you learned early on), they don’t spend and businesses don’t prosper. Those
businesses don’t sell goods, they don’t employ more workers.
I saw some statistics last night that Government has lost 600,000 jobs over the
last few years. That includes City, County and State jobs as well as Federal
jobs. The reason is twofold. People are not spending so there is less sales tax
money. And, property values have gone down so there is less property tax money.
My tax bill does not show a decrease, but there has not been an increase either.
Over the last 4 or 5 recessions, the stats show that Government jobs increased.
No one realized just how bad this recession/depression was going to be, and I
don't think John McCain and the Republicans would have put us in a different
place than we are now.
When the middle class doesn’t prosper the economy doesn’t move. That's what is
happening right now. There has been a significant shift in wealth over the past
10 years from the middle class to the wealthy. And now the elites, through the
Republican Party, are pitting us, the middle class, against each other.
I think your characterization of people who care about themselves and choose a
good life style are somehow takers and therefore Democrat, is just plain wrong.
To put a Vegan/Vegetarian into that category is as bad as a person flipping off
a fireman on the street because they believe he or she is on the government
I think your law enforcement background has jaded your thinking, ie: black or
white; that there is no gray. As I have said before, I used to be a Republican.
Many of the policies of the Reagan administration would not fly in the
Republican party of today. I am also pro-choice, and that definitely does not
fit with today’s Republican Party.
I'll try to keep this short, but a couple of
points need to be made. The first one relates to the paper route that you called
your first business and one that you said you owned at age 11. Did you build it
with or without the government's help? When I had my paper route, which was also
my first job, I had to go door-to-door and ask people to subscribe and/or
collect the payment due, and Uncle Sam didn't lend a hand. Second, I think you
read some things into my op/ed piece that were not there. I made no reference
whatsoever to a "social safety net." Of course one is needed to assist those who
cannot fend for themselves. But providing checks, food stamps and other
entitlements (and even advertising them in the media in some parts of the
country) for those who are perfectly capable of pulling their own weight
encourages many of them to sit on their collective butts and live off the
taxpayers who do work. Bill Clinton, with bipartisan support, took a brave
stance during his term with his welfare reform measure that put many of the
welfare recipients to work. Some of that reform was nullified a few weeks ago by
the Obama administration who granted waivers to a handful of states that found
Clinton's measures too stringent. And finally, please don't label me as a
Republican. If I have to be painted with a political brush, it should be as a
moderate independent who leans to the right.
ARE THERE TWO
This opinion piece from
last Friday's paper doesn't favor the right or the left in my view, so I
consider it acceptable fodder for the Farsider. What it does is make a clear and
concise argument that there are two Californias. I was impressed with this piece
and decided to pass it along...
The ‘C’ in California is for
Driving across California is like going from
Mississippi to Massachusetts without ever crossing a state line. Consider the
disconnects: California’s combined income and sales taxes are among the nation’s
highest, but the state’s deficit is still about $16 billion. It’s estimated that
more than 2,000 upper- income Californians are leaving per week to flee high
taxes and costly regulations, yet California wants to raise taxes even higher;
its business climate already ranks near the bottom of most surveys.
Its teachers are among the highest paid on average in the nation, but its public
school students consistently test near the bottom of the nation in both math and
The state’s public employees enjoy some of the nation’s most generous pensions
and benefits, but California’s retirement systems are underfunded by about $300
billion. The state’s gas taxes — at more than 49 cents a gallon — are among the
highest in the nation, but its once unmatched freeways, like Highways 101 and
99, for long stretches have degenerated into potholed, clogged nightmares
unchanged since the early 1960s. The state wishes to borrow billions of dollars
to develop high-speed rail, beginning with a little-traveled link between Fresno
and Corcoran — a corridor already served by money-losing Amtrak. Apparently,
coastal residents like the idea of European high-speed rail — as long as noisy
and dirty construction does not begin in their backyards. As gasoline prices
soar, California chooses not to develop millions of barrels of untapped oil and
even more natural gas off its shores and beneath its interior. Home to bankrupt
green companies like Solyndra, California has mandated that a third of all the
energy provided by state utilities soon must come from renewable energy sources
— largely wind and solar, which presently provide about 11 percent of its
electricity and almost none of its transportation fuel.
How to explain the seemingly inexplicable?
There is no California, which is a misnomer.
There is no such state.
Instead there are two radically different cultures and landscapes with little in
common, each equally dysfunctional in quite different ways. Apart they are
unworldly, together a disaster.
A post-modern narrow coastal corridor runs from San Diego to Berkeley, where the
weather is ideal, the gentrified affluent make good money, and values are green
and left-wing. This Shangri-La is juxtaposed to a vast impoverished interior,
from the southern desert to the northern Central Valley, where life is becoming
On the coast, blue-chip universities like Cal Tech, Berkeley, Stanford and UCLA
in pastoral landscapes train the world’s doctors, lawyers, engineers and
businesspeople. In the hot interior of blue-collar Sacramento, Turlock, Fresno
and Bakersfield, well over half the incoming freshmen in the California State
University system must take remedial math and science classes.
In post-modern Palo Alto or Santa Monica, a small cottage costs more than $1
million. Two hours away, in pre-modern and now-bankrupt Stockton, a bungalow the
same size goes for less than $100,000.
In the interior, unemployment in many areas peaks at more than 15 percent. The
theft of copper wire is reaching epidemic proportions.
Thousands of the shrinking middle class flee the interior or the coast for
nearby no-income-tax states. To fathom the state’s nearly unbelievable
statistics, as the state population grew by 10 million from the mid-1980s to
2005, its number of Medicaid recipients increased by 7 million during that
period; one-third of the nation’s welfare recipients now reside in California.
Coastal Californians can afford to worry about the state’s trivia as their
legislators seek to outlaw foie gras, shut down irrigation projects to save the
3-inch delta smelt, and allow children to have legally recognized multiple
The drive from Fresno to Palo Alto takes three hours, but you might as well be
rocketing from Earth to the moon.
Hanson is a syndicated columnist. For more on his background, click on the link
ABOUT THE BIN LADEN TAKEDOWN BOOK
This Yahoo News article
sent in by Dean Janavice is likely to cause some controversy when the book about
the bin Laden raid written by a Navy SEAL who was there becomes available this
SEAL Book Raises Questions
About bin Laden's Death
By Kimberly Dozer — Associated Press — Aug. 28, 2012
WASHINGTON (AP) — A first-hand account of the Navy SEAL
raid that killed Osama bin Laden contradicts previous accounts by administration
officials, raising questions as to whether the terror mastermind presented a
clear threat when SEALs first fired upon him.
Bin Laden apparently was shot in the head when he
looked out of his bedroom door into the top-floor hallway of his compound as
SEALs rushed up a narrow stairwell in his direction, according to former Navy
SEAL Matt Bissonnette, writing under the pseudonym Mark Owen in "No Easy Day."
The book is to be published next week by Penguin Group (USA)'s Dutton imprint.
Bissonnette says he was directly behind a point man going up the stairs in the
pitch black hallway. Near the top, he said, he heard two shots, but the book
doesn't make it clear who fired them. He wrote that the point man had seen a man
peeking out of a door on the right side of the hallway.
The author writes that the man ducked back into his bedroom and the SEALs
followed, only to find the man crumpled on the floor in a pool of blood with a
hole visible on the right side of his head and two women wailing over his body.
Once they wiped the blood off his face, they were certain it was bin Laden.
Bissonnette says the point man pulled the two women out of the way and shoved
them into a corner. He and the other SEALs trained their guns' laser sights on
bin Laden's still-twitching body, shooting him several times until he lay
motionless. The SEALs later found two weapons stored by the doorway, untouched,
the author said.
Administration officials briefing reporters in the days after the May 2011 raid
in Pakistan said the SEALs shot bin Laden only after he ducked back into the
bedroom because they assumed he might be reaching for a weapon.
National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor would not comment on the
apparent contradiction late Tuesday. But he said in an email Wednesday, "As
President Obama said on the night that justice was brought to Osama bin Laden,
'We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify
the professionalism, patriotism and unparalleled courage of those who serve our
"No Easy Day" was due out Sept. 11, but Dutton announced the book would be
available a week early, Sept. 4, because of a surge of orders due to advance
publicity that drove the book to the top of the Amazon.com and Barnes &
Noble.com best-seller lists.
The Associated Press purchased a copy of the book Tuesday.
The account is sure to renew questions about whether the raid was intended to
capture or simply to kill bin Laden. Bissonnette writes that during a pre-raid
briefing, an administration lawyer told them that they were not on an
assassination mission. According to Bissonnette, the lawyer said that if bin
Laden was "naked with his hands up," they should not engage him. If bin Laden
did not pose a threat, they should detain him.
A former deputy judge advocate general for the Air Force said the shooting was
understandable according to the orders the SEALS had.
"It wasn't unreasonable for the SEALs to shoot the individual who stuck his head
out," said the former JAG, ret. Maj. Gen. Charlie Dunlap, who now teaches at
Duke University law school.
"In a confined space like that where it is clear that there are hostiles, the
SEALs need to take reasonable steps to ensure their safety and accomplish the
mission," Dunlap said.
Dunlap adds that shooting bin Laden's fallen form was also reasonable in his
legal opinion, to keep the terrorist from possibly blowing himself up or getting
a weapon and shooting at the SEALs.
In another possibly uncomfortable revelation for U.S. officials who say bin
Laden's body was treated with dignity before being given a full Muslim burial at
sea, the author reveals that in the cramped helicopter flight out of the
compound, one of the SEALs was sitting on bin Laden's chest as the body lay at
the author's feet in the middle of the cabin, for the short flight to a
refueling stop inside Pakistan where a third helicopter was waiting.
This is common practice, as U.S. troops sometimes must sit on their own war dead
in packed helicopters. Space was cramped because one of the helicopters had
crashed in the initial assault, leaving little space for the roughly two dozen
commandos in the two aircraft that remained. When the commandos reached the
third aircraft, bin Laden's body was moved to it.
Bissonnette writes that none of the SEALs were fans of President Barack Obama
and knew that his administration would take credit for ordering the raid. One of
the SEALs said after the mission that they had just gotten Obama re-elected by
carrying out the raid.
But he says they respected him as commander in chief and for giving the
operation the go-ahead.
Bissonnette writes less flatteringly of meeting Vice President Joe Biden along
with Obama at the headquarters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment
after the raid. He says Biden told "lame jokes" no one understood, reminding him
of "someone's drunken uncle at Christmas dinner."
Beyond such embarrassing observations, U.S. officials fear the book may include
classified information, as it did not undergo the formal review required by the
Pentagon for works published by former or current Defense Department employees.
Officials from the Pentagon and the CIA, which commanded the mission, are
examining the manuscript for possible disclosure of classified information and
could take legal action against the author.
In a statement provided to the AP, the author says he did "not disclose
confidential or sensitive information that would compromise national security in
Bissonnette's real name was first revealed by Fox News and confirmed to the AP.
Jihadists on al-Qaida websites have posted purported photos of the author,
calling for his murder.
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LEGEND UPDATE AS OF AUG. 25, 2012
The facts behind the legends, information and
misinformation that has or may show up in your inbox
Was this cat born this way, or was the picture Photoshopped?
• Did Nelson Mandela say that "Our deepest fear is not
that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond
• Opinion piece entitled "Why I Do Not Like the Obamas" attributed to Mychal
• Photograph purportedly shows a half-black, half-tabby "chimera cat."
• Account of actress Martha Raye's entertaining troops and tending to wounded
soldiers in the field in Vietnam.
• Did Mitt Romney say that he was "too important to go to Vietnam"?
• E-mail claims that uninsured Dallas motorists (80+% of whom were illegals)
are having their cars towed, which has resulted in a 47% reduction of vehicle
• List of howlers collected by a Washington travel agent purportedly shows
members of Congress to be hopelessly lost about ordinary geography.
• Find a nine-letter English word that remains a valid word as each of its
letters is successively removed.
• Don't forget to visit our Daily Snopes page for a collection of odd news
stories from around the world!
Worth a Second Look
• Did a damaged saguaro cactus fall onto the man who had harmed it, killing
Still Haunting the Inbox
• Check out our 25 Hottest Urban Legends list to keep abreast of what's
circulating in the on-line world.
• Visit our Top Scams page for a list of schemes commonly used by crooks to
separate the unwary from their money.
THE LIGHTER SIDE &
OTHER ODDS AND ENDS
Did the Apollo 11 crew see
a UFO while they were enroute to the moon? By pure definition, the answer is
yes; they did in fact observe an "unidentified flying object," which is not to
say it was an alien spacecraft.
This video that was brought to our attention by Tom Macris was uploaded to
YouTube in Aug. of 2011 and is titled "Apollo 11: The Untold Story." The full
46-minute video is fascinating in that it deals with risks the astronauts were
unaware of, and how close they came to dying. The portion that deals with the
UFO described by Buzz Aldrin begins at 11 minutes and 30 seconds into the clip,
which you can go to immediately using the red scrubber bar at the bottom of the
video. Whether you go to that segment immediately or sit back and watch the
program in full, we feel confident the vast majority of you will find it of
intense interest. If you don't, you are probably too young to appreciate what
occurred in July 1969, or you are one of the nuts who believe that the moon
landing took place on a Hollywood set. (46 Mins.)
Rest in peace, Neil
8/5/30 — 8/25/12
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If you were going to stage
a police pursuit between a supercharged Mustang and two insane guys riding
motors that features the art of drifting, you would be hard pressed to top this
one sent in by Les Nunes. It even features a surprise ending with the
make-believe cop unloading a round from what looks like a .44 Mag.
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We hadn't seen or heard this oldie-but-goodie sent in by Baci in
several years and thought it was worth a grin...
Four brothers left home for college, and they became
successful doctors and lawyers.
One evening, they chatted after having dinner together. They discussed the 95th
birthday gifts they were able to give their elderly mother who moved to Florida
The first said, "You know I had a big house built for Mama."
The second said, "And I had a large theater built in the house."
The third said, "And I had my Mercedes dealer deliver an SL600 to her."
The fourth said, "You know how Mama loved reading the Bible and you know she
can't read anymore because she can't see very well. I met this preacher who told
me about a parrot who could recite the entire Bible. It took ten preachers
almost 8 years to teach him. I had to pledge to contribute $50,000 a year for
five years to the church, but it was worth it. Mama only has to name the chapter
and verse, and the parrot will recite it."
The other brothers were impressed. After the celebration Mama sent out her
"Thank You" notes.
She wrote: "Milton, the house you built is so huge that I live in only one room,
but I have to clean the whole house. Thanks anyway."
"Marvin," she wrote, "I am too old to travel. I stay home. I have my groceries
delivered, so I never use the Mercedes. The thought was good though. Thanks."
"Michael, you gave me an expensive theater with Dolby sound that can hold 50
people, but all of my friends are dead, I've lost my hearing, and I'm nearly
blind. I'll never use it. But thank you for the gesture just the same."
"Dearest Melvin, you were the only son to have the good sense to give a little
thought to your gift. The chicken was delicious Thank you so much."
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Joe Wicker says
this clip should bring back some fond (or perhaps not-so-fond) memories for
those of you who served in the Marine Corps. (5 Mins.)
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This test pilot may sound
like he's boasting about the F-35. If so, he's well justified. Granted, this is
basically an infomercial from Lockheed-Martin, but it's well worth watching if
you are an aviation enthusiast. (5 Mins.)
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We thought it was time to
reprise this Tim Hawkins performance from an earlier Farsider where he sings the
modern version of "The Candy Man" that the late Sammy Davis Jr. made famous.
Keep in mind that this isn't about the Democrats or the Republicans per se; it's
about the Government in general. (3 Mins.)
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The Brit is back. Pat
Condell has become something of a conservative crusader in the UK with his rants
about atheists, the UN, Islam and a number of other hot button issues. When Bob
Bell sent in this clip of one of Condell's latest video clips earlier this week
he said it might be too politically incorrect for the Farsider. Nonsense. We've
passed along other Condell videos in the past. This one was posted on YouTube a
few months ago. (6 Mins.)
If you go to
and type "Pat Condell" into the search field you will find a few dozen other
clips on a variety of topics.
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If this guy is correct —
and he probably is — the so-called "war on poverty" has failed. But it can't be
blamed solely on Obama as it began several administrations ago. Have a look and
listen and form your own opinion. (4 Mins.)
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This week's challenge comes
from Rodger Cripe: Click on the gigapan image of the opening ceremony of the
London Olympics and use your mouse to find the Queen. If you are able to locate
her, consider yourself an expert mouse manipulator. This image is what you are
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There's no question that
this video from Lumpy is the best of the week, at least for those of us who were
teens in the 1950s and 1960s. Whoever gathered the clips for the video did an
outstanding job, but the images were surpassed by the music selection. If there
is a problem with this video, it's that it doesn't run long enough. And if you
are significantly affected by nostalgia, keep a tissue handy because, for many
of us, it was indeed the best of times. (12 Mins.)
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Pic of the Week:
Take a close
look at this 2nd Grade graduation picture
from the early 1950s and see if you can spot Leroy...
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